Breve Análise do Surface Laptop 3 15 Ryzen 5: A Microsoft pode fazer melhor
Rating | Date | Model | Weight | Height | Size | Resolution | Price |
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82.9 % v7 (old) | 11/2019 | Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 15 Ryzen 5 3580U R5 3580U, Vega 9 | 1.5 kg | 14.7 mm | 15.00" | 2496x1664 | |
86.3 % v7 (old) | 09/2019 | Dell XPS 15 7590 i5 iGPU FHD i5-9300H, UHD Graphics 630 | 1.9 kg | 17 mm | 15.60" | 1920x1080 | |
87.9 % v7 (old) | 07/2018 | Apple MacBook Pro 15 2018 (2.6 GHz, 560X) i7-8850H, Radeon Pro 560X | 1.8 kg | 15.5 mm | 15.40" | 2880x1800 | |
83.9 % v7 (old) | 03/2019 | HP Spectre x360 15-df0126ng i7-8750H, GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q | 2.2 kg | 19.3 mm | 15.60" | 3840x2160 | |
90 % v6 (old) | Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon 2018-20KGS5DU00 i5-8550U, UHD Graphics 620 | 1.1 kg | 15.95 mm | 14.00" | 2560x1440 |
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iluminação: 86 %
iluminação com acumulador: 403.4 cd/m²
Contraste: 1042:1 (Preto: 0.4 cd/m²)
ΔE Color 2.75 | 0.5-29.43 Ø4.92, calibrated: 0.71
ΔE Greyscale 1.8 | 0.5-98 Ø5.2
99.4% sRGB (Argyll 1.6.3 3D)
63.4% AdobeRGB 1998 (Argyll 1.6.3 3D)
63.7% AdobeRGB 1998 (Argyll 2.2.0 3D)
99.3% sRGB (Argyll 2.2.0 3D)
66.9% Display P3 (Argyll 2.2.0 3D)
Gamma: 2.09
Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 15 Ryzen 5 3580U Sharp LQ150P1JX51, IPS, 15", 2496x1664 | Microsoft Surface Laptop 2-LQN-00004 VVX14T092N00, IPS, 13.5", 2256x1504 | Microsoft Surface Laptop i5 ID: MEI96A2, Name: Panasonic VVX14T092N00, IPS, 13.5", 2256x1504 | Dell XPS 15 7590 i5 iGPU FHD LQ156M1, IPS, 15.6", 1920x1080 | HP Spectre x360 15-df0126ng AU Optronics AUO30EB, IPS, 15.6", 3840x2160 | Apple MacBook Pro 15 2018 (2.6 GHz, 560X) APPA040, IPS, 15.4", 2880x1800 | |
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Display | 2% | 2% | 2% | 1% | 28% | |
Display P3 Coverage | 66.9 | 68 2% | 67.8 1% | 66.5 -1% | 68.1 2% | 98.7 48% |
sRGB Coverage | 99.3 | 94.7 -5% | 94.3 -5% | 98 -1% | 94.2 -5% | 99.9 1% |
AdobeRGB 1998 Coverage | 63.7 | 69.2 9% | 69.5 9% | 68.4 7% | 68.4 7% | 86.6 36% |
Response Times | -37% | -5% | -31% | -3% | 157% | |
Response Time Grey 50% / Grey 80% * | 47.2 ? | 69.2 ? -47% | 50.8 ? -8% | 52.8 ? -12% | 57 ? -21% | 43.2 ? 8% |
Response Time Black / White * | 36.8 ? | 46.4 ? -26% | 37.2 ? -1% | 32 ? 13% | 31 ? 16% | 31.2 ? 15% |
PWM Frequency | 21370 ? | 1020 ? -95% | 117000 ? 447% | |||
Screen | -15% | 11% | 1% | -39% | 29% | |
Brightness middle | 416.9 | 392 -6% | 384.2 -8% | 588 41% | 330 -21% | 520 25% |
Brightness | 389 | 390 0% | 378 -3% | 555 43% | 310 -20% | 492 26% |
Brightness Distribution | 86 | 89 3% | 90 5% | 89 3% | 87 1% | 88 2% |
Black Level * | 0.4 | 0.24 40% | 0.36 10% | 0.4 -0% | 0.37 7% | 0.39 2% |
Contrast | 1042 | 1633 57% | 1067 2% | 1470 41% | 892 -14% | 1333 28% |
Colorchecker dE 2000 * | 2.75 | 3.2 -16% | 1.8 35% | 2.5 9% | 4.03 -47% | 1.2 56% |
Colorchecker dE 2000 max. * | 6.64 | 6.3 5% | 4.2 37% | 6.3 5% | 6.74 -2% | 2.3 65% |
Colorchecker dE 2000 calibrated * | 0.71 | 1.4 -97% | 0.6 15% | 1.96 -176% | ||
Greyscale dE 2000 * | 1.8 | 4.5 -150% | 1.2 33% | 4.5 -150% | 4.49 -149% | 1.3 28% |
Gamma | 2.09 105% | 2.2 100% | 2.21 100% | 2.2 100% | 2.57 86% | 2.18 101% |
CCT | 6646 98% | 7556 86% | 6708 97% | 6836 95% | 6744 96% | 6738 96% |
Color Space (Percent of AdobeRGB 1998) | 63.4 | 63.9 1% | 63.7 0% | 63.2 0% | 61 -4% | |
Color Space (Percent of sRGB) | 99.4 | 95 -4% | 94.2 -5% | 98 -1% | 94 -5% | |
Total Average (Program / Settings) | -17% /
-15% | 3% /
7% | -9% /
-5% | -14% /
-27% | 71% /
56% |
* ... smaller is better
Display Response Times
↔ Response Time Black to White | ||
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36.8 ms ... rise ↗ and fall ↘ combined | ↗ 20.4 ms rise | |
↘ 16.4 ms fall | ||
The screen shows slow response rates in our tests and will be unsatisfactory for gamers. In comparison, all tested devices range from 0.1 (minimum) to 240 (maximum) ms. » 94 % of all devices are better. This means that the measured response time is worse than the average of all tested devices (21 ms). | ||
↔ Response Time 50% Grey to 80% Grey | ||
47.2 ms ... rise ↗ and fall ↘ combined | ↗ 23.2 ms rise | |
↘ 24 ms fall | ||
The screen shows slow response rates in our tests and will be unsatisfactory for gamers. In comparison, all tested devices range from 0.165 (minimum) to 636 (maximum) ms. » 80 % of all devices are better. This means that the measured response time is worse than the average of all tested devices (32.9 ms). |
Screen Flickering / PWM (Pulse-Width Modulation)
Screen flickering / PWM detected | 21370 Hz | ≤ 51 % brightness setting | |
The display backlight flickers at 21370 Hz (worst case, e.g., utilizing PWM) Flickering detected at a brightness setting of 51 % and below. There should be no flickering or PWM above this brightness setting. The frequency of 21370 Hz is quite high, so most users sensitive to PWM should not notice any flickering. In comparison: 53 % of all tested devices do not use PWM to dim the display. If PWM was detected, an average of 8743 (minimum: 5 - maximum: 343500) Hz was measured. |
PCMark 8 Home Score Accelerated v2 | 3348 pontos | |
PCMark 8 Work Score Accelerated v2 | 4246 pontos | |
PCMark 10 Score | 4056 pontos | |
Ajuda |
Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 15 Ryzen 5 3580U SK hynix BC501 HFM256GDGTNG | Microsoft Surface Laptop 2-LQN-00004 SK Hynix BC501 NVMe 256 GB | Microsoft Surface Laptop i5 Toshiba THNSN0128GTYA | Dell XPS 15 7590 i5 iGPU FHD Toshiba XG6 KXG60ZNV512G | Apple MacBook Pro 15 2018 (2.6 GHz, 560X) Apple SSD AP0512 | HP Spectre x360 15-df0126ng Toshiba XG5-P KXG50PNV2T04 | |
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AS SSD | 10% | -89% | 133% | 2% | 55% | |
Seq Read | 1122 | 826 -26% | 561 -50% | 2357 110% | 2239 100% | 2018 80% |
Seq Write | 514 | 555 8% | 117.2 -77% | 1235 140% | 1644 220% | 773 50% |
4K Read | 34.98 | 33.39 -5% | 20.15 -42% | 43.29 24% | 9.46 -73% | 24.62 -30% |
4K Write | 96.8 | 95.3 -2% | 39.07 -60% | 99.7 3% | 18.78 -81% | 92.8 -4% |
4K-64 Read | 492 | 447 -9% | 80.4 -84% | 1020 107% | 965 96% | 845 72% |
4K-64 Write | 339.9 | 370.4 9% | 35.48 -90% | 1502 342% | 163.5 -52% | 957 182% |
Access Time Read * | 0.056 | 0.048 14% | 0.128 -129% | 0.07 -25% | 0.225 -302% | 0.147 -163% |
Access Time Write * | 0.11 | 0.048 56% | 0.369 -235% | 0.039 65% | 0.057 48% | |
Score Read | 639 | 563 -12% | 157 -75% | 1299 103% | 1199 88% | 1071 68% |
Score Write | 488 | 521 7% | 86 -82% | 1726 254% | 347 -29% | 1127 131% |
Score Total | 1434 | 1369 -5% | 309 -78% | 3640 154% | 2119 48% | 2684 87% |
Copy ISO MB/s | 828 | 755 -9% | 87.1 -89% | 2145 159% | 1652 100% | |
Copy Program MB/s | 200.5 | 325.1 62% | 62.7 -69% | 565 182% | 328.5 64% | |
Copy Game MB/s | 387.4 | 577 49% | 80.5 -79% | 1320 241% | 700 81% |
* ... smaller is better
3DMark 06 Standard Score | 13365 pontos | |
3DMark Vantage P Result | 12628 pontos | |
3DMark 11 Performance | 4424 pontos | |
3DMark Ice Storm Standard Score | 77533 pontos | |
3DMark Cloud Gate Standard Score | 13582 pontos | |
3DMark Fire Strike Score | 2524 pontos | |
3DMark Time Spy Score | 974 pontos | |
Ajuda |
Rocket League | |
1280x720 Performance | |
HP Spectre x360 15-df0126ng | |
Dell G3 3590 | |
Apple MacBook Pro 15 2018 (2.9 GHz, Vega 20) | |
Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 GA502DU | |
Acer Aspire 5 A515-52G-723L | |
MSI PL62 MX150 7700HQ | |
Dell Inspiron 15 5000 5585 | |
Dell XPS 13 7390 2-in-1 Core i7 | |
Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 15 Ryzen 5 3580U | |
Microsoft Surface Laptop i7 | |
Microsoft Surface Laptop 2-LQN-00004 | |
Razer Blade Stealth i7-1065G7 Iris Plus | |
Lenovo ThinkPad A285-20MX0002GE | |
1920x1080 Quality AA:Medium FX | |
Apple MacBook Pro 15 2018 (2.9 GHz, Vega 20) | |
Dell G3 3590 | |
HP Spectre x360 15-df0126ng | |
Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 GA502DU | |
MSI PS63 Modern 8SC | |
Acer Aspire 5 A515-52G-723L | |
Razer Blade Stealth i7-1065G7 Iris Plus | |
MSI PL62 MX150 7700HQ | |
Dell XPS 13 7390 2-in-1 Core i7 | |
Dell Inspiron 15 5000 5585 | |
Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 15 Ryzen 5 3580U | |
Microsoft Surface Laptop 2-LQN-00004 | |
Microsoft Surface Laptop i7 |
Shadow of the Tomb Raider - 1280x720 Lowest Preset | |
Apple MacBook Pro 15 2018 (2.9 GHz, Vega 20) | |
Dell G3 3590 | |
Apple MacBook Pro 15 2018 (2.6 GHz, 560X) | |
Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 GA502DU | |
Acer Aspire 5 A515-52G-723L | |
Dell Inspiron 15 5000 5585 | |
Razer Blade Stealth i7-1065G7 Iris Plus | |
Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 15 Ryzen 5 3580U | |
Dell XPS 13 7390 2-in-1 Core i7 | |
Microsoft Surface Pro 6, Core i7, 512 GB |
Fortnite | |
1280x720 Low Preset | |
Apple MacBook Pro 15 2018 (2.6 GHz, 560X) | |
Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 GA502DU | |
Razer Blade Stealth i7-1065G7 Iris Plus | |
Honor Magicbook | |
Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 15 Ryzen 5 3580U | |
1920x1080 Medium Preset | |
MSI PS63 Modern 8SC | |
Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 GA502DU | |
Apple MacBook Pro 15 2018 (2.6 GHz, 560X) | |
Razer Blade Stealth i7-1065G7 Iris Plus | |
Honor Magicbook | |
Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 15 Ryzen 5 3580U |
baixo | média | alto | ultra | |
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BioShock Infinite (2013) | 117.9 | 20.5 | ||
The Witcher 3 (2015) | 41.9 | 13.3 | 8.1 | |
Overwatch (2016) | 92.3 | 36.3 | 19.3 | |
Rocket League (2017) | 100.7 | 46.2 | 30.4 | |
Fortnite (2018) | 48 | 22.3 | 15.7 | 9.1 |
Shadow of the Tomb Raider (2018) | 29 | 8 | ||
Apex Legends (2019) | 60.7 | 20.9 | 18 | 14.5 |
F1 2019 (2019) | 51 | 21 | 18 | 12 |
Borderlands 3 (2019) | 28.3 | 13.5 | 7.8 |
Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 15 Ryzen 5 3580U Vega 9, R5 3580U, SK hynix BC501 HFM256GDGTNG | Microsoft Surface Laptop 2-LQN-00004 UHD Graphics 620, i5-8250U, SK Hynix BC501 NVMe 256 GB | Microsoft Surface Laptop i5 HD Graphics 620, i5-7200U, Toshiba THNSN0128GTYA | Dell XPS 15 7590 i5 iGPU FHD UHD Graphics 630, i5-9300H, Toshiba XG6 KXG60ZNV512G | Apple MacBook Pro 15 2018 (2.6 GHz, 560X) Radeon Pro 560X, i7-8850H, Apple SSD AP0512 | HP Spectre x360 15-df0126ng GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, i7-8750H, Toshiba XG5-P KXG50PNV2T04 | |
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Noise | 1% | -1% | -4% | -14% | -14% | |
off / environment * | 28 | 28.7 -3% | 28.2 -1% | 29.3 -5% | 29.6 -6% | 30.4 -9% |
Idle Minimum * | 28 | 28.7 -3% | 28.2 -1% | 29.3 -5% | 30.1 -8% | 30.4 -9% |
Idle Average * | 28 | 28.7 -3% | 28.2 -1% | 29.3 -5% | 30.1 -8% | 30.4 -9% |
Idle Maximum * | 28 | 28.7 -3% | 29 -4% | 29.8 -6% | 30.1 -8% | 31.6 -13% |
Load Average * | 29.2 | 30 -3% | 30.3 -4% | 32.4 -11% | 46.8 -60% | 43.2 -48% |
Witcher 3 ultra * | 39 | 36 8% | ||||
Load Maximum * | 41.4 | 32.9 21% | 39.3 5% | 37.2 10% | 46.8 -13% | 38.3 7% |
* ... smaller is better
Barulho
Ocioso |
| 28 / 28 / 28 dB |
Carga |
| 29.2 / 41.4 dB |
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30 dB silencioso 40 dB(A) audível 50 dB(A) ruidosamente alto |
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min: , med: , max: Audix TM1, Arta (15 cm de distância) environment noise: 28 dB(A) |
(±) The maximum temperature on the upper side is 43.6 °C / 110 F, compared to the average of 34.3 °C / 94 F, ranging from 21.2 to 62.5 °C for the class Office.
(-) The bottom heats up to a maximum of 49.4 °C / 121 F, compared to the average of 36.8 °C / 98 F
(+) In idle usage, the average temperature for the upper side is 26.6 °C / 80 F, compared to the device average of 29.5 °C / 85 F.
(±) Playing The Witcher 3, the average temperature for the upper side is 37.6 °C / 100 F, compared to the device average of 29.5 °C / 85 F.
(+) The palmrests and touchpad are reaching skin temperature as a maximum (35.8 °C / 96.4 F) and are therefore not hot.
(-) The average temperature of the palmrest area of similar devices was 27.7 °C / 81.9 F (-8.1 °C / -14.5 F).
Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 15 Ryzen 5 3580U audio analysis
(±) | speaker loudness is average but good (79.9 dB)
Bass 100 - 315 Hz
(+) | good bass - only 4.8% away from median
(±) | linearity of bass is average (8.2% delta to prev. frequency)
Mids 400 - 2000 Hz
(+) | balanced mids - only 4% away from median
(±) | linearity of mids is average (8.5% delta to prev. frequency)
Highs 2 - 16 kHz
(+) | balanced highs - only 3.5% away from median
(±) | linearity of highs is average (9.1% delta to prev. frequency)
Overall 100 - 16.000 Hz
(+) | overall sound is linear (14.7% difference to median)
Compared to same class
» 9% of all tested devices in this class were better, 4% similar, 87% worse
» The best had a delta of 7%, average was 22%, worst was 53%
Compared to all devices tested
» 17% of all tested devices were better, 4% similar, 79% worse
» The best had a delta of 4%, average was 25%, worst was 134%
Apple MacBook 12 (Early 2016) 1.1 GHz audio analysis
(+) | speakers can play relatively loud (83.6 dB)
Bass 100 - 315 Hz
(±) | reduced bass - on average 11.3% lower than median
(±) | linearity of bass is average (14.2% delta to prev. frequency)
Mids 400 - 2000 Hz
(+) | balanced mids - only 2.4% away from median
(+) | mids are linear (5.5% delta to prev. frequency)
Highs 2 - 16 kHz
(+) | balanced highs - only 2% away from median
(+) | highs are linear (4.5% delta to prev. frequency)
Overall 100 - 16.000 Hz
(+) | overall sound is linear (10.2% difference to median)
Compared to same class
» 6% of all tested devices in this class were better, 2% similar, 92% worse
» The best had a delta of 5%, average was 19%, worst was 53%
Compared to all devices tested
» 4% of all tested devices were better, 1% similar, 95% worse
» The best had a delta of 4%, average was 25%, worst was 134%
desligado | 0.2 / 0.51 Watt |
Ocioso | 3.3 / 7.1 / 7.2 Watt |
Carga |
44.8 / 53 Watt |
Key:
min: ,
med: ,
max: Metrahit Energy |
Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 15 Ryzen 5 3580U R5 3580U, Vega 9, SK hynix BC501 HFM256GDGTNG, IPS, 2496x1664, 15" | Microsoft Surface Laptop 2-LQN-00004 i5-8250U, UHD Graphics 620, SK Hynix BC501 NVMe 256 GB, IPS, 2256x1504, 13.5" | Dell XPS 15 7590 i5 iGPU FHD i5-9300H, UHD Graphics 630, Toshiba XG6 KXG60ZNV512G, IPS, 1920x1080, 15.6" | Asus VivoBook S15 S530UN-BQ097T i5-8550U, GeForce MX150, SanDisk SD9SN8W256G1027, IPS LED, 1920x1080, 15.6" | Dell Inspiron 15 5000 5585 R7 3700U, Vega 10, WDC PC SN520 SDAPNUW-512G, IPS, 1920x1080, 15.6" | HP EliteBook 755 G5 3UN79EA R7 2700U, Vega 10, Toshiba XG5 KXG50ZNV512G, IPS, 1920x1080, 15.6" | |
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Power Consumption | 7% | -36% | -8% | 5% | -32% | |
Idle Minimum * | 3.3 | 3 9% | 3.79 -15% | 3.1 6% | 4.2 -27% | 5 -52% |
Idle Average * | 7.1 | 6.8 4% | 6.9 3% | 6.3 11% | 6.8 4% | 10.6 -49% |
Idle Maximum * | 7.2 | 8.76 -22% | 9.2 -28% | 8.6 -19% | 7 3% | 12.9 -79% |
Load Average * | 44.8 | 35.1 22% | 62 -38% | 56.4 -26% | 36.5 19% | 40.6 9% |
Witcher 3 ultra * | 45.1 | 45 -0% | 37.9 16% | |||
Load Maximum * | 53 | 42.6 20% | 108 -104% | 62.7 -18% | 44 17% | 46.6 12% |
* ... smaller is better
Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 15 Ryzen 5 3580U R5 3580U, Vega 9, 45 Wh | Microsoft Surface Laptop 2-LQN-00004 i5-8250U, UHD Graphics 620, 45 Wh | Microsoft Surface Laptop i5 i5-7200U, HD Graphics 620, 45 Wh | Dell XPS 15 7590 i5 iGPU FHD i5-9300H, UHD Graphics 630, 97 Wh | Apple MacBook Pro 15 2018 (2.6 GHz, 560X) i7-8850H, Radeon Pro 560X, 83 Wh | HP Spectre x360 15-df0126ng i7-8750H, GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, 84 Wh | |
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Battery Runtime | 2% | 18% | 27% | 12% | 10% | |
Reader / Idle | 1121 | 1249 11% | 1351 21% | 1127 1% | ||
WiFi v1.3 | 546 | 543 -1% | 602 10% | 844 55% | 614 12% | 528 -3% |
Load | 102 | 98 -4% | 124 22% | 100 -2% | 135 32% | |
Witcher 3 ultra | 88 |
Pro
Contra
O Surface Laptop 3 15 possui alguns destaques. Em primeiro lugar, o fato de o Ryzen 5 3580U mais barato poder alcançar facilmente o Core i7-1065G7, mais caro, em potência de CPU, é um feito notável para a AMD. Fatores como a duração da bateria e o ruído do ventilador mal mudaram desde o Surface Laptop 2, o que significa que o Surface Laptop 3, com AMD, pode oferecer desempenho mais rápido que o modelo da geração anterior, sem as repercussões usuais. Lembre-se de que, embora ainda não tenhamos testado o Surface Laptop 3 15 com Core i7, ele terá que impressionar, já que é vendido por US$ 500 a mais (!) Do que a versão AMD Ryzen 5.
O segundo destaque notável é a tela táctil 3:2 incomum. O painel é nítido e relativamente brilhante, com cobertura sRGB plena. Infelizmente, a Microsoft não oferece opções de calibração de fábrica à la Gigabyte Aero 15 ou Razer Blade portanto, é necessária uma calibração do usuário final para aproveitar ao máximo a tela.
Quase todo o resto do Surface Laptop 3 é meramente médio ou decepcionante, considerando o alto preço. Este Surface Laptop maior de 15 polegadas foi a chance da Microsoft abordar as más opções de conectividade do Surface Laptop de 13,5 polegadas, mas nada melhorou realmente. A mini DisplayPort não está mais presente, o que leva os usuários a investirem no Surface Dock separado de $200. A porta USB Tipo C não possui Thunderbolt 3 e Power Delivery, o que significa que você terá que carregar o carregador de CA proprietário com você onde quer que vá. Por outro lado, os usuários podem usar um único carregador USB universal tipo C entre o Dell XPS 13, XPS 15, Huawei MateBook X Pro, HP Spectre x360 13, smartphone, ou tablet para uma versatilidade superior. (Atualização: O carregamento USB tipo C agora funciona após a atualização da unidade Surface Laptop 3.)
Os marcos grossos, o lento SSD NVMe, os lentos tempos de resposta em preto e branco e a falta de Wi-Fi 6, LTE, leitor de digitais e obturador de privacidade da webcam contribuem para um portátil carro-chefe que parece desatualizado, apesar do excelente desempenho da tela e do processador. O Surface Laptop 3 15 pode ser ideal para você, se você valoriza seu formato super leve de 3:2 e não se importa com a conectividade limitada, mas você tem opções muito melhores por US$ 1.500.
Tem uma bela aparência e tem um desempenho muito bom, mesmo para o SKU AMD mais barato, mas a falta de recursos e portas se tornará aparente muito rapidamente. Ultrabooks carros chefe mais tradicionais oferecem muito mais em termos de desempenho e conectividade nessa faixa de preço.
Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 15 Ryzen 5 3580U
- 10/27/2019 v7 (old)
Allen Ngo