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Breve Análise do Portátil MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK: Um portátil para jogos de gama média e faminto por energia

Compact gamer.

Todo o equipamento AMD no Alpha 15 roda todos os jogos atuais sem problemas na tela mate de 15,6 polegadas, FHD, IPS, 144 Hz e FreeSync do dispositivo. No entanto, seus requisitos de energia comparativamente altos cobram seu preço.
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034 (Alpha 15 Serie)
Processador
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H 4 x 2.3 - 4 GHz, Picasso (Zen+)
Placa gráfica
AMD Radeon RX 5500M - 4 GB VRAM, Análises do: 1645 MHz, Memoría: 1750 MHz, GDDR6, conexão de 128-bits, Adrenalin 19.12.2 (26.20.15002.61), Enduro
Memória
16 GB 
, DDR4-2666, dual-channel, dois bancos de memória (ocupados)
Pantalha
15.60 polegadas 16:9, 1920 x 1080 pixel 141 PPI, AU Optronics B156HAN08.0 (AUO80ED), IPS, 144 Hz, FreeSync, Full HD, Brilhante: não
placa mãe
AMD Promontory/Bixby FCH
Disco rígido
Kingston RBUSNS8154P3512GJ, 512 GB 
, M.2-2280, slot de 2,5 polegadas disponível, 405 GB livre
Placa de Som
Realtek ALC233 @ AMD K17.1 - Audio Processor - High Definition Audio Controller
Conexões
4 USB 3.0, 1 HDMI, 1 DisplayPort, 1 Kensington Lock, Conexões Audio: Conectores dedicados para fones e microfone, Card Reader: SD,SDHC,SDXC, TPM 2.0
Funcionamento em rede
Killer E2600 Gigabit Ethernet Controller (10/100/1000MBit/s), Realtek 8822CE Wireless LAN 802.11ac PCI-E NIC (a/b/g/n = Wi-Fi 4/ac = Wi-Fi 5/), Bluetooth 5
Tamanho
altura x largura x profundidade (em mm): 27.5 x 357.7 x 248
Bateria
51 Wh, 4730 mAh Lítio-Ion, 6 células
Sistema Operativo
Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
Camera
Webcam: HD 720p
Primary Camera: 0.9 MPix
Características adicionais
Alto falantes: Estéreo, Teclado: Chiclet, Iluminação do Teclado: sim, Fonte de alimentação 180 W, MS Office 365 (versão de teste), 24 Meses Garantia
peso
2.288 kg, Suprimento de energia: 600 g
Preço
1299 Euro
Note: The manufacturer may use components from different suppliers including display panels, drives or memory sticks with similar specifications.

 

Rating
Date
Model
Weight
Height
Size
Resolution
Price
78.8 %
v7 (old)
02/2020
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
R7 3750H, Radeon RX 5500M
2.3 kg27.5 mm15.60"1920x1080
82.1 %
v7 (old)
11/2019
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
i7-9750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile
2.3 kg23.2 mm15.60"1920x1080
79.7 %
v7 (old)
11/2019
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
R7 3750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q
2.3 kg23.5 mm15.60"1920x1080
79.6 %
v7 (old)
10/2019
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
i5-9300H, GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile
2.7 kg23.7 mm15.60"1920x1080
82.3 %
v7 (old)
08/2019
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
i7-9750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile
2.2 kg26 mm15.60"1920x1080

Size Comparison

365 mm 260 mm 26 mm 2.2 kg364 mm 273 mm 23.7 mm 2.7 kg357.7 mm 248 mm 27.5 mm 2.3 kg361.4 mm 254.2 mm 23.2 mm 2.3 kg360 mm 257 mm 23.5 mm 2.3 kg297 mm 210 mm 1 mm 5.7 g
Left-hand side: Cable lock slot, fan grille, Gigabit Ethernet, HDMI, mini Displayport, USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A, USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-C, 3.5 mm headphone jack, 3.5 mm microphone jack
Left-hand side: Cable lock slot, fan grille, Gigabit Ethernet, HDMI, mini Displayport, USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A, USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-C, 3.5 mm headphone jack, 3.5 mm microphone jack
Right-hand side: 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A, SD card reader, power connector
Right-hand side: 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A, SD card reader, power connector
SD Card Reader
average JPG Copy Test (av. of 3 runs)
Average of class Gaming
  (19 - 202, n=87, last 2 years)
95.9 MB/s +174%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
  (Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC 64 GB UHS-II)
35.3 MB/s +1%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
  (Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC 64 GB UHS-II)
35 MB/s
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
  (Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC 64 GB UHS-II)
25 MB/s -29%
maximum AS SSD Seq Read Test (1GB)
Average of class Gaming
  (25.8 - 269, n=88, last 2 years)
120 MB/s +224%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
  (Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC 64 GB UHS-II)
37.2 MB/s +1%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
  (Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC 64 GB UHS-II)
37 MB/s
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
  (Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC 64 GB UHS-II)
26 MB/s -30%
Networking
iperf3 transmit AX12
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
Intel Wireless-AC 9560
676 MBit/s +7%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
Realtek 8822CE Wireless LAN 802.11ac PCI-E NIC
660 (536min - 759max) MBit/s +4%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
Killer Wireless-AC 1550i Wireless Network Adapter (9560NGW)
653 (615min - 670max) MBit/s +3%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
Realtek 8822CE Wireless LAN 802.11ac PCI-E NIC
634 MBit/s
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
Intel Wireless-AC 9560
630 MBit/s -1%
iperf3 receive AX12
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
Intel Wireless-AC 9560
691 MBit/s +4%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
Killer Wireless-AC 1550i Wireless Network Adapter (9560NGW)
672 (658min - 682max) MBit/s +1%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
Realtek 8822CE Wireless LAN 802.11ac PCI-E NIC
665 MBit/s
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
Intel Wireless-AC 9560
619 MBit/s -7%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
Realtek 8822CE Wireless LAN 802.11ac PCI-E NIC
526 (464min - 639max) MBit/s -21%
314
cd/m²
324
cd/m²
317
cd/m²
284
cd/m²
310
cd/m²
296
cd/m²
311
cd/m²
330
cd/m²
305
cd/m²
Distribuição do brilho
AU Optronics B156HAN08.0 (AUO80ED) tested with X-Rite i1Pro 2
Máximo: 330 cd/m² (Nits) Médio: 310.1 cd/m² Minimum: 14 cd/m²
iluminação: 86 %
iluminação com acumulador: 310 cd/m²
Contraste: 1069:1 (Preto: 0.29 cd/m²)
ΔE Color 4.78 | 0.5-29.43 Ø4.91, calibrated: 2.36
ΔE Greyscale 4.78 | 0.5-98 Ø5.2
91% sRGB (Argyll 1.6.3 3D)
59% AdobeRGB 1998 (Argyll 1.6.3 3D)
66.6% AdobeRGB 1998 (Argyll 2.2.0 3D)
91% sRGB (Argyll 2.2.0 3D)
66.4% Display P3 (Argyll 2.2.0 3D)
Gamma: 2.43
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AU Optronics B156HAN08.0 (AUO80ED), IPS, 1920x1080
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
AUO, B156HAN08.2, IPS, 1920x1080
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
AU Optronics B156HAK02.0, IPS, 1920x1080
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
AU Optronics B156HAN (AUO23ED), IPS, 1920x1080
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
BOE 084D, IPS, 1920x1080
Display
-1%
-4%
27%
-2%
Display P3 Coverage
66.4
64.1
-3%
62.8
-5%
83.1
25%
63.6
-4%
sRGB Coverage
91
93
2%
89.2
-2%
99.9
10%
91.7
1%
AdobeRGB 1998 Coverage
66.6
65.7
-1%
63.8
-4%
96.8
45%
65.2
-2%
Response Times
-51%
-325%
-387%
-21%
Response Time Grey 50% / Grey 80% *
7 ?(3.4, 3.6)
15 ?(8, 7)
-114%
40 ?(19, 21)
-471%
48 ?(22.8, 25.2)
-586%
8.8 ?(4, 4.4)
-26%
Response Time Black / White *
10.4 ?(5.2, 5.2)
9 ?(5, 4)
13%
29 ?(16, 13)
-179%
30 ?(16.8, 13.2)
-188%
12 ?(6.8, 5.2)
-15%
PWM Frequency
Screen
7%
1%
-21%
5%
Brightness middle
310
325
5%
302
-3%
234
-25%
299
-4%
Brightness
310
310
0%
291
-6%
216
-30%
290
-6%
Brightness Distribution
86
82
-5%
84
-2%
87
1%
89
3%
Black Level *
0.29
0.255
12%
0.25
14%
0.22
24%
0.29
-0%
Contrast
1069
1275
19%
1208
13%
1064
0%
1031
-4%
Colorchecker dE 2000 *
4.78
4.28
10%
4.84
-1%
6.52
-36%
3.7
23%
Colorchecker dE 2000 max. *
8.1
8.42
-4%
8.18
-1%
10.58
-31%
7
14%
Colorchecker dE 2000 calibrated *
2.36
1.45
39%
2.63
-11%
3.56
-51%
2
15%
Greyscale dE 2000 *
4.78
5.01
-5%
4.31
10%
5.33
-12%
4.1
14%
Gamma
2.43 91%
2.6 85%
2.56 86%
2.86 77%
2.19 100%
CCT
7739 84%
7678 85%
7318 89%
5983 109%
7166 91%
Color Space (Percent of AdobeRGB 1998)
59
60
2%
58
-2%
36
-39%
59.3
1%
Color Space (Percent of sRGB)
91
93
2%
89
-2%
57
-37%
91.5
1%
Total Average (Program / Settings)
-15% / -2%
-109% / -41%
-127% / -58%
-6% / 1%

* ... smaller is better

Display Response Times

Display response times show how fast the screen is able to change from one color to the next. Slow response times can lead to afterimages and can cause moving objects to appear blurry (ghosting). Gamers of fast-paced 3D titles should pay special attention to fast response times.
       Response Time Black to White
10.4 ms ... rise ↗ and fall ↘ combined↗ 5.2 ms rise
↘ 5.2 ms fall
The screen shows good response rates in our tests, but may be too slow for competitive gamers.
In comparison, all tested devices range from 0.1 (minimum) to 240 (maximum) ms. » 25 % of all devices are better.
This means that the measured response time is better than the average of all tested devices (20.9 ms).
       Response Time 50% Grey to 80% Grey
7 ms ... rise ↗ and fall ↘ combined↗ 3.4 ms rise
↘ 3.6 ms fall
The screen shows very fast response rates in our tests and should be very well suited for fast-paced gaming.
In comparison, all tested devices range from 0.165 (minimum) to 636 (maximum) ms. » 16 % of all devices are better.
This means that the measured response time is better than the average of all tested devices (32.8 ms).

Screen Flickering / PWM (Pulse-Width Modulation)

To dim the screen, some notebooks will simply cycle the backlight on and off in rapid succession - a method called Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) . This cycling frequency should ideally be undetectable to the human eye. If said frequency is too low, users with sensitive eyes may experience strain or headaches or even notice the flickering altogether.
Screen flickering / PWM not detected

In comparison: 53 % of all tested devices do not use PWM to dim the display. If PWM was detected, an average of 8705 (minimum: 5 - maximum: 343500) Hz was measured.

CPU-Z
CPU-Z
CPU-Z
CPU-Z
CPU-Z
CPU-Z
GPU-Z
GPU-Z
HWInfo
LatencyMon
 
 
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MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034 AMD Ryzen 7 3750H, AMD Ryzen 7 3750H: Ø707 (701.57-734.14)
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY Intel Core i7-9750H, Intel Core i7-9750H: Ø1113 (1102.29-1169.32)
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng AMD Ryzen 7 3750H, AMD Ryzen 7 3750H: Ø765 (755.34-779.97)
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ Intel Core i5-9300H, Intel Core i5-9300H: Ø771 (679.21-818)
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE Intel Core i7-9750H, Intel Core i7-9750H: Ø1157 (1151.34-1211.72)
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034 AMD Ryzen 7 3750H, AMD Ryzen 7 3750H; Silent: Ø668 (653.77-672.38)
CPU clock speeds during a loop of CB R15 Multi 64Bit
CPU clock speeds during a loop of CB R15 Multi 64Bit
CPU clock speeds on silent mode during a loop of CB R15 Multi 64Bit
CPU clock speeds on silent mode during a loop of CB R15 Multi 64Bit
Cinebench R10 Rendering Single 32Bit
4527
Cinebench R10 Rendering Multiple CPUs 32Bit
19290
Cinebench R10 Shading 32Bit
8386
Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64Bit
143 Points
Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64Bit
734 Points
Cinebench R15 OpenGL 64Bit
88.9 fps
Cinebench R15 Ref. Match 64Bit
98 %
Cinebench R20 CPU (Multi Core)
1633 Points
Cinebench R20 CPU (Single Core)
352 Points
Ajuda
Cinebench R15
CPU Single 64Bit
Average of class Gaming
  (191.9 - 318, n=191, last 2 years)
278 Points +94%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
Intel Core i7-9750H
190 Points +33%
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
Intel Core i7-9750H
187 Points +31%
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
Intel Core i5-9300H
169 Points +18%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
143 Points
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
135 Points -6%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H (Silent)
135 Points -6%
CPU Multi 64Bit
Average of class Gaming
  (905 - 5663, n=194, last 2 years)
3417 Points +366%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
Intel Core i7-9750H
1170 Points +59%
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
Intel Core i7-9750H
1155 (899.54min - 1211.72max) Points +57%
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
Intel Core i5-9300H
818 Points +11%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
780 Points +6%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
734 Points
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H (Silent)
672 Points -8%
Cinebench R10
Rendering Single 32Bit
Average of class Gaming
  (5719 - 15819, n=18, last 2 years)
9755 Points +115%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
4898 Points +8%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
4527 Points
Rendering Multiple CPUs 32Bit
Average of class Gaming
  (32456 - 112749, n=18, last 2 years)
63783 Points +231%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
20750 Points +8%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
19290 Points
Cinebench R20
CPU (Single Core)
Average of class Gaming
  (439 - 856, n=187, last 2 years)
725 Points +106%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
Intel Core i7-9750H
459 Points +30%
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
Intel Core i7-9750H
458 Points +30%
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
Intel Core i5-9300H
404 Points +15%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
352 Points
CPU (Multi Core)
Average of class Gaming
  (2179 - 13832, n=187, last 2 years)
8300 Points +408%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
Intel Core i7-9750H
2599 Points +59%
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
Intel Core i7-9750H
2595 Points +59%
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
Intel Core i5-9300H
1821 Points +12%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
1633 Points
Geekbench 3
32 Bit Multi-Core Score
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
15019 Points +4%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
14478 Points
32 Bit Single-Core Score
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
3819 Points +3%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
3717 Points
Geekbench 4.4
64 Bit Multi-Core Score
Average of class Gaming
  (31241 - 71700, n=15, last 2 years)
54312 Points +304%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
Intel Core i7-9750H
18433 Points +37%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
Intel Core i7-9750H
18433 Points +37%
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
Intel Core i7-9750H
17054 Points +27%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
13738 Points +2%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
13448 Points
64 Bit Single-Core Score
Average of class Gaming
  (6158 - 8945, n=15, last 2 years)
8126 Points +96%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
Intel Core i7-9750H
4977 Points +20%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
Intel Core i7-9750H
4977 Points +20%
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
Intel Core i7-9750H
4440 Points +7%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
4186 Points +1%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
4150 Points
Geekbench 5.0
5.0 Multi-Core
Average of class Gaming
  (5830 - 23176, n=36, last 2 years)
14871 Points +318%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
3718 Points +4%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
3561 Points
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H (Silent)
3007 Points -16%
5.0 Single-Core
Average of class Gaming
  (1341 - 2117, n=36, last 2 years)
1858 Points +116%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
908 Points +6%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
860 Points
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H (Silent)
853 Points -1%
Geekbench 5.5
Multi-Core
Average of class Gaming
  (4557 - 23194, n=187, last 2 years)
14993 Points +324%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
3537 Points
Single-Core
Average of class Gaming
  (986 - 2210, n=187, last 2 years)
1892 Points +116%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
874 Points
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Total
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
Intel Core i7-9750H
1713 ms * -39%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H (Edge 44)
1228 ms *
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H (Edge 44)
1158 ms * +6%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
Intel Core i7-9750H (Edge: 44.18362.387.0)
1063 ms * +13%
Average of class Gaming
  (421 - 674, n=175, last 2 years)
503 ms * +59%
Octane V2 - Total Score
Average of class Gaming
  (69893 - 115768, n=56, last 2 years)
95460 Points +219%
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
Intel Core i7-9750H
37229 Points +24%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
Intel Core i7-9750H (Edge: 44.18362.387.0)
37133 Points +24%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H (Edge 44)
30714 Points +3%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H (Edge 44)
29949 Points
JetStream 1.1 - Total Score
Average of class Gaming
  (357 - 669, n=33, last 2 years)
526 Points +151%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
Intel Core i7-9750H (Edge: 44.18362.387.0)
264.3 Points +26%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H (Edge 44)
219.5 Points +5%
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
Intel Core i7-9750H
211.6 Points +1%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H (Edge 44)
209.5 Points
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H (Edge 44; Silent)
205.3 Points -2%

* ... smaller is better

PCMark 8 Home Score Accelerated v2
4121 pontos
PCMark 8 Creative Score Accelerated v2
4614 pontos
PCMark 8 Work Score Accelerated v2
5045 pontos
PCMark 10 Score
4605 pontos
Ajuda
PCMark 10 - Score
Average of class Gaming
  (5776 - 9852, n=164, last 2 years)
7791 Points +69%
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H, WDC PC SN720 SDAPNTW-512G
5716 Points +24%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H, WDC PC SN720 SDAPNTW-512G
5279 Points +15%
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i5-9300H, KBG30ZMS128G
4615 Points 0%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
Radeon RX 5500M, R7 3750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3512GJ
4605 Points
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, R7 3750H, WDC PC SN720 SDAPNTW-256G
4565 Points -1%
PCMark 8
Home Score Accelerated v2
Average of class Gaming
  (4560 - 5937, n=20, last 2 years)
5223 Points +27%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H, WDC PC SN720 SDAPNTW-512G
4688 Points +14%
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H, WDC PC SN720 SDAPNTW-512G
4507 Points +9%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
Radeon RX 5500M, R7 3750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3512GJ
4121 Points
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, R7 3750H, WDC PC SN720 SDAPNTW-256G
3944 Points -4%
Work Score Accelerated v2
Average of class Gaming
  (5520 - 6853, n=18, last 2 years)
6102 Points +21%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H, WDC PC SN720 SDAPNTW-512G
5483 Points +9%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
Radeon RX 5500M, R7 3750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3512GJ
5045 Points
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H, WDC PC SN720 SDAPNTW-512G
5041 Points 0%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, R7 3750H, WDC PC SN720 SDAPNTW-256G
4967 Points -2%
Kingston RBUSNS8154P3512GJ
Sequential Read: 1077 MB/s
Sequential Write: 1019 MB/s
512K Read: 858 MB/s
512K Write: 1020 MB/s
4K Read: 34.93 MB/s
4K Write: 104.1 MB/s
4K QD32 Read: 326.7 MB/s
4K QD32 Write: 282.2 MB/s
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
Kingston RBUSNS8154P3512GJ
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
WDC PC SN720 SDAPNTW-512G
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
WDC PC SN720 SDAPNTW-256G
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
KBG30ZMS128G
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
WDC PC SN720 SDAPNTW-512G
CrystalDiskMark 5.2 / 6
67%
39%
-48%
60%
Write 4K
105.4
108.7
3%
148
40%
65.3
-38%
158.8
51%
Read 4K
33.24
44.91
35%
43.73
32%
29.71
-11%
29.11
-12%
Write Seq
1029
2424
136%
1617
57%
128.8
-87%
1584
54%
Read Seq
1098
1617
47%
1753
60%
859
-22%
1694
54%
Write 4K Q32T1
322.1
356.9
11%
246.3
-24%
95.8
-70%
536
66%
Read 4K Q32T1
352
557
58%
368
5%
197.6
-44%
363.9
3%
Write Seq Q32T1
1036
2542
145%
1618
56%
132.5
-87%
2536
145%
Read Seq Q32T1
1606
3218
100%
3027
88%
1208
-25%
3458
115%
3DMark 06 Standard Score
24966 pontos
3DMark 11 Performance
12765 pontos
3DMark Ice Storm Standard Score
55844 pontos
3DMark Cloud Gate Standard Score
21898 pontos
3DMark Fire Strike Score
10319 pontos
3DMark Time Spy Score
4105 pontos
Ajuda
3DMark
1920x1080 Fire Strike Graphics
Average of class Gaming
  (781 - 53059, n=192, last 2 years)
31443 Points +153%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile
14358 Points +15%
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile
14288 Points +15%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q
13362 Points +7%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Radeon RX 5500M
12441 Points
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile
9239 Points -26%
2560x1440 Time Spy Graphics
Average of class Gaming
  (224 - 22717, n=187, last 2 years)
13142 Points +206%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile
5616 Points +31%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q
5166 Points +20%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Radeon RX 5500M
4298 Points
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile
3488 Points -19%
3DMark 11 - 1280x720 Performance GPU
Average of class Gaming
  (1029 - 72178, n=182, last 2 years)
43857 Points +168%
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile
19553 Points +20%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile
19435 Points +19%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q
18493 Points +13%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Radeon RX 5500M
16335 Points
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
AMD Radeon RX 5500M (Silent)
16302 Points 0%
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile
13233 Points -19%
The Witcher 3 - 1920x1080 Ultra Graphics & Postprocessing (HBAO+)
Average of class Gaming
  (18.4 - 216, n=163, last 2 years)
128.3 fps +187%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H
54.6 (48min - 62max) fps +22%
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H
53.1 (50min, 51P1 - 58max) fps +19%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, R7 3750H
52.2 fps +17%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
Radeon RX 5500M, R7 3750H
44.7 fps
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
Radeon RX 5500M, R7 3750H (Silent)
44.5 fps 0%
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i5-9300H
34.4 (26min) fps -23%
BioShock Infinite - 1920x1080 Ultra Preset, DX11 (DDOF)
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H
138 fps +46%
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H
128 fps +36%
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, R7 3750H
107.4 fps +14%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
Radeon RX 5500M, R7 3750H
94.2 fps
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
Radeon RX 5500M, R7 3750H (Silent)
93.7 fps -1%
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i5-9300H
86.1 (3min) fps -9%
For Honor - 1920x1080 Extreme Preset AA:T AF:16x
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
Radeon RX 5500M, R7 3750H
78.5 fps
F1 2019 - 1920x1080 Ultra High Preset AA:T AF:16x
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, R7 3750H
77 fps +13%
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
Radeon RX 5500M, R7 3750H
68 fps
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i5-9300H
59 (53min) fps -13%
0510152025303540455055Tooltip
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034 Radeon RX 5500M, R7 3750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3512GJ: Ø43.4 (38-48)
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H, WDC PC SN720 SDAPNTW-512G: Ø51.9 (47-58)
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, R7 3750H, WDC PC SN720 SDAPNTW-256G: Ø49.5 (43-53)
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i5-9300H, KBG30ZMS128G: Ø35.8 (32-38)
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H, WDC PC SN720 SDAPNTW-512G: Ø53.1 (50-58)
GPU information during The Witcher 3 endurance test
GPU information during The Witcher 3 endurance test
baixomédiaaltoultra
BioShock Infinite (2013) 197.3 173.5 155 94.2
The Witcher 3 (2015) 173.6 129 73.3 44.7
For Honor (2017) 184.3 102 97 78.5
Ghost Recon Wildlands (2017) 73.1 52.9 50.3 27.1
Final Fantasy XV Benchmark (2018) 90.9 57.7 30.8
World of Tanks enCore (2018) 241.9 176.3 89.7
F1 2019 (2019) 114 97 82 68
Control (2019) 128.9 50.1 36.9
Borderlands 3 (2019) 75.2 62.3 45 34.2
Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order (2019) 57.3 52.8 50.1

Barulho

Ocioso
36 / 37 / 46 dB
Carga
50 / 57 dB
  red to green bar
 
 
30 dB
silencioso
40 dB(A)
audível
50 dB(A)
ruidosamente alto
 
min: dark, med: mid, max: light   Audix TM1, Arta (15 cm de distância)   environment noise: 29 dB(A)
dB(A) 0102030405060708090Deep BassMiddle BassHigh BassLower RangeMidsHigher MidsLower HighsMid HighsUpper HighsSuper Highs2035.339.736.129.734.62544.542.542.537.141.13136.934.935.630.533.14043.938.639.532.733.65037.433.235.229.630.66339.741.33227.8338042.228.128.125.843.810029.327.525.623.746.512529.827.424.724.831.616027.727.126.425.830.420028.725.924.222.232.725029.728.123.5213431536.533.231.820.537.940036.832.129.219.24150038.736.124.918.94263036.933.425.117.643.78003632.524.817.142.3100037.53425.517.143.4125038.935.426.317.945.4160038.834.825.317.545.6200040.837.525.117.347.3250040.937.123.717.347.9315036.43120.417.146.5400036.432.321.61744.550003933.722.917.645.5630033.929.419.817.142800028.624.117.61737.31000027.721.417.517.236.41250022.618.617.21733.21600019.317.917.116.827.9SPL49.845.936.329.756.8N7.15.32.51.311.3median 36.4median 32.1median 24.7median 17.5median 42Delta4.542.61.95.6hearing rangehide median Fan NoiseMSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
R7 3750H, Radeon RX 5500M
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
i7-9750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
R7 3750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
i5-9300H, GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
i7-9750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile
Noise
15%
15%
9%
20%
off / environment *
29
30.2
-4%
30.2
-4%
30
-3%
29.3
-1%
Idle Minimum *
36
31
14%
31.5
12%
31
14%
29.3
19%
Idle Average *
37
31
16%
31.5
15%
32
14%
29.3
21%
Idle Maximum *
46
31
33%
31.5
32%
35
24%
29.3
36%
Load Average *
50
41.5
17%
41.4
17%
49
2%
35.7
29%
Witcher 3 ultra *
51
46.7
8%
43.7
14%
47
8%
44.2
13%
Load Maximum *
57
46.9
18%
45.5
20%
53
7%
45.6
20%

* ... smaller is better

 42 °C44 °C42 °C 
 43 °C44 °C41 °C 
 34 °C37 °C35 °C 
Máximo: 44 °C
Médio: 40.2 °C
46 °C46 °C43 °C
49 °C47 °C43 °C
34 °C40 °C39 °C
Máximo: 49 °C
Médio: 43 °C
alimentação elétrica  50 °C | Temperatura do quarto 20 °C | Voltcraft IR-900
(-) The average temperature for the upper side under maximal load is 40.2 °C / 104 F, compared to the average of 33.9 °C / 93 F for the devices in the class Gaming.
(±) The maximum temperature on the upper side is 44 °C / 111 F, compared to the average of 40.5 °C / 105 F, ranging from 21.2 to 68.8 °C for the class Gaming.
(-) The bottom heats up to a maximum of 49 °C / 120 F, compared to the average of 43.2 °C / 110 F
(+) In idle usage, the average temperature for the upper side is 25.6 °C / 78 F, compared to the device average of 33.9 °C / 93 F.
(±) Playing The Witcher 3, the average temperature for the upper side is 37.3 °C / 99 F, compared to the device average of 33.9 °C / 93 F.
(±) The palmrests and touchpad can get very hot to the touch with a maximum of 37 °C / 98.6 F.
(-) The average temperature of the palmrest area of similar devices was 28.9 °C / 84 F (-8.1 °C / -14.6 F).
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
R7 3750H, Radeon RX 5500M
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
i7-9750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
R7 3750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
i5-9300H, GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
i7-9750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile
Heat
1%
6%
-3%
-20%
Maximum Upper Side *
44
52
-18%
44.8
-2%
49
-11%
42.7
3%
Maximum Bottom *
49
46.3
6%
40.8
17%
55
-12%
52.7
-8%
Idle Upper Side *
26
24.8
5%
25.4
2%
25
4%
33.1
-27%
Idle Bottom *
28
25.4
9%
26.6
5%
26
7%
41
-46%

* ... smaller is better

dB(A) 0102030405060708090Deep BassMiddle BassHigh BassLower RangeMidsHigher MidsLower HighsMid HighsUpper HighsSuper Highs2029.7402537.146.83130.541.94032.738.85029.635.26327.835.48025.831.410023.732.912524.835.616025.84820022.249.22502150.131520.551.940019.25950018.957.863017.670.380017.177.1100017.185.4125017.981.5160017.576.5200017.377.6250017.374.3315017.178.640001778.2500017.675.3630017.175.380001779.11000017.279.5125001777.41600016.876.1SPL29.790.6N1.383.1median 17.5median 76.1Delta1.910.13433.43432.930.332.932.233.432.231.931.231.930.129.530.129.529.529.527.827.727.825.827.825.826.332.326.32439.52423.840.323.822.333.922.321.740.221.720.356.420.319.556.719.518.558.218.518.455.918.418.25918.217.661.217.617.460.617.417.459.917.417.561.517.517.658.417.617.76417.717.968.617.917.962.817.91862.21817.960.617.917.85317.817.946.417.930.374.130.31.431.81.4median 18median 58.2median 181.48.51.4hearing rangehide median Pink NoiseMSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
Frequency diagram (checkboxes can be checked and unchecked to compare devices)
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034 audio analysis

(+) | speakers can play relatively loud (91 dB)
Bass 100 - 315 Hz
(-) | nearly no bass - on average 31.4% lower than median
(+) | bass is linear (5.8% delta to prev. frequency)
Mids 400 - 2000 Hz
(±) | reduced mids - on average 7.4% lower than median
(±) | linearity of mids is average (9.9% delta to prev. frequency)
Highs 2 - 16 kHz
(+) | balanced highs - only 2.1% away from median
(+) | highs are linear (3.7% delta to prev. frequency)
Overall 100 - 16.000 Hz
(±) | linearity of overall sound is average (19.5% difference to median)
Compared to same class
» 65% of all tested devices in this class were better, 7% similar, 28% worse
» The best had a delta of 6%, average was 18%, worst was 132%
Compared to all devices tested
» 45% of all tested devices were better, 7% similar, 48% worse
» The best had a delta of 4%, average was 25%, worst was 134%

HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng audio analysis

(-) | not very loud speakers (68 dB)
Bass 100 - 315 Hz
(-) | nearly no bass - on average 22.5% lower than median
(±) | linearity of bass is average (10.5% delta to prev. frequency)
Mids 400 - 2000 Hz
(+) | balanced mids - only 1.7% away from median
(±) | linearity of mids is average (8.4% delta to prev. frequency)
Highs 2 - 16 kHz
(+) | balanced highs - only 4.4% away from median
(±) | linearity of highs is average (8.1% delta to prev. frequency)
Overall 100 - 16.000 Hz
(±) | linearity of overall sound is average (23.8% difference to median)
Compared to same class
» 84% of all tested devices in this class were better, 5% similar, 11% worse
» The best had a delta of 6%, average was 18%, worst was 132%
Compared to all devices tested
» 68% of all tested devices were better, 7% similar, 25% worse
» The best had a delta of 4%, average was 25%, worst was 134%

Consumo de energia
desligadodarklight 0.7 / 0.9 Watt
Ociosodarkmidlight 14 / 18 / 32 Watt
Carga midlight 64 / 193 Watt
 color bar
Key: min: dark, med: mid, max: light        Metrahit Energy
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
R7 3750H, Radeon RX 5500M
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
i7-9750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
R7 3750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
i5-9300H, GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
i7-9750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile
Power Consumption
-12%
38%
34%
-2%
Idle Minimum *
14
17.2
-23%
3.4
76%
4
71%
14.5
-4%
Idle Average *
18
22.6
-26%
7.6
58%
7
61%
18.5
-3%
Idle Maximum *
32
25.5
20%
10.2
68%
12
62%
20
37%
Load Average *
64
88
-38%
73
-14%
95
-48%
81.6
-28%
Witcher 3 ultra *
123
107
13%
86
30%
132
-7%
Load Maximum *
193
177
8%
140.5
27%
135
30%
208.1
-8%

* ... smaller is better

Tempo de Execução da Bateria
Ocioso (sem WLAN, min brilho)
5h 49min
WiFi Websurfing (Edge 44)
4h 05min
Big Buck Bunny H.264 1080p
3h 54min
Carga (máximo brilho)
0h 49min
MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034
R7 3750H, Radeon RX 5500M, 51 Wh
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-79TY
i7-9750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, 58.75 Wh
HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng
R7 3750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, 52.5 Wh
Dell G5 15 5590-PCNJJ
i5-9300H, GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, 60 Wh
Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH-81SX00B2GE
i7-9750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, 57 Wh
Battery Runtime
2%
102%
137%
-6%
Reader / Idle
349
298
-15%
819
135%
867
148%
240
-31%
H.264
234
202
-14%
508
117%
WiFi v1.3
245
210
-14%
480
96%
482
97%
145
-41%
Load
49
73
49%
79
61%
131
167%
76
55%

Pro

+ Tela IPS mate
+ Taxa de atualização de 144 Hz
+ Suporte para FreeSync
+ SSD NVMe
+ Slot SATA livre
+ Teclado iluminado

Contra

- Consumo de energia relativamente alto
- Barulhento sob uso intenso
- Sem Thunderbolt 3
- Duração de bateria pobre

Verdict - A competent and compact midrange gaming laptop let down by loud fans and short battery life

The MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034 laptop review. Test device courtesy of MSI Germany.
The MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034 laptop review. Test device courtesy of MSI Germany.

A MSI, com o Alpha 15, criou um portátil de jogos de gama média decente de 15,6 polegadas. Sua APU Ryzen 7 3750H e GPU Radeon RX 5500M permitem que o Alpha 15 rode todos os jogos atuais sem problemas. Como regra, o Alpha 15 é um portátil para jogos de 1080p que pode rodar títulos com gráficos médios a altos. Em alguns casos, o Alpha 15 pode jogar além desses níveis, mas apenas em títulos pouco exigentes. No geral, o RX 5500M fica entre a GeForce GTX 1650 e a GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q.

O Alpha 15 também possui um consumo de energia comparativamente alto, tanto sob carga quanto no modo ocioso. Como resultado, as durações de sua bateria de 51 Wh não são particularmente boas. A MSI deve examinar novamente o gerenciamento de energia, em nossa opinião. O portátil também funciona de forma barulhenta, principalmente com o perfil de desempenho que usamos durante nossos testes. Se você não precisar necessariamente do desempenho máximo, poderá usar o modo Silencioso no MSI Dragon Center. Pelo menos isso seria preferível para o uso diário.

Essencialmente, o MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK é um portátil de jogos de gama média bem-sucedido. No entanto, sofre de fraquezas que a MSI ainda está para erradicar, se isso for possível.

A MSI equipou o dispositivo com um SSD NVMe rápido, que oferece 512 GB de armazenamento. Se isso não for suficiente, você poderá adicionar uma unidade SATA de 2,5 polegadas. A MSI pré-instala o Alpha 15 com um slot SATA e estrutura de montagem também.

O dispositivo também possui um painel IPS adequadamente brilhante, com acabamento mate e resolução nativa de 1080p. O painel também possui uma boa taxa de contraste, além de ângulos de visão estáveis, precisão de cores decente e tempos de resposta curtos. Ele também suporta a tecnologia AMD FreeSync. Além disso, o Alpha 15 possui um número adequado de portas, mas não há Thunderbolt 3. O teclado retro iluminado também é bom o suficiente para o uso diário.

O Alpha 15 não terá facilidade em se afirmar. Alguns concorrentes têm uma relação custo/benefício significativamente melhor, por exemplo. O HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0017ng custa € 1.150 (~$ 1.259), uns bons € 150 (~$ 164) menos que nossa unidade de análise. O Pavilion Gaming 15 também oferece uma GPU mais potente que a Alpha 15, junto com ventiladores mais silenciosos, temperaturas mais baixas da superfície, consumo de energia reduzido e duração da bateria significativamente melhor.

MSI Alpha 15 A3DDK-034 - 02/07/2020 v7 (old)
Sascha Mölck

Acabamento
74 / 98 → 76%
Teclado
83%
Mouse
83%
Conectividade
60 / 80 → 75%
Peso
61 / 10-66 → 91%
Bateria
56 / 95 → 59%
Pantalha
84%
Desempenho do jogos
86%
Desempenho da aplicação
84%
Temperatura
86 / 95 → 91%
Ruído
43 / 90 → 48%
Audio
76%
Camera
24 / 85 → 28%
Médio
69%
79%
Gaming - Médio equilibrado

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Sascha Mölck, 2020-02-19 (Update: 2024-11- 4)