100 W Core i7-8809G vs. 28 W Core i7-1165G7: Pode Tiger Lake superar o exótico chipset Intel-AMD?

A Intel percorreu um longo caminho desde o Lago Kaby. Um olhar mais atento sobre a evolução e as diferenças entre os NUCs Hades Canyon e Phantom Canyon mostra porque o fabricante de chips azuis dificilmente buscará outra parceria com seu homólogo vermelho em breve.

Allen Ngo, Published 04/29/2021 🇺🇸 🇫🇷 ...

A Intel e a AMD fizeram ondulações em sua indústria quando anunciaram um parceria em 2017 para co-desenvolver a plataforma Kaby Lake-G. Foi um chipset único que casou um CPU Kaby Lake-H quad-core com uma GPU Radeon RX Vega, tudo embalado sob um envelope de 100 W TDP. Não durou muito tempo no mercado, no entanto, devido em parte a seu apoio muito limitado dos principais fabricantes de PCs

O 2018 Hades Canyon NUC continua sendo o primeiro e único campeão do Kaby Lake-G Núcleo i7-8809G processador. Embora seria tolice esperar que ele funcionasse tão rápido quanto as últimas soluções de 2021, ainda estamos interessados em ver a diferença de desempenho que existe entre o raro Core i7-8809G de 100 W e a plataforma atual de 28 W Tiger Lake-U

O NUC11 Phantom Canyon sucede diretamente ao NUC8 Hades Canyon para torná-lo o sistema perfeito para uma comparação frente a frente. Benchmarks multi-tarefa pesados como CineBench, Blender e HWBOT x265 mostram que o Core i7-8809G e Core i7-1165G7 estão muito próximos um do outro, apesar de suas enormes diferenças nos níveis de TDP. Entretanto, a CPU mais nova tem um desempenho superior ao da CPU Intel-AMD quando se trata de cargas com rosca única

Quando se olha para o Radeon RX Vega M GH e móvel GeForce RTX 2060Este último oferece taxas de quadros significativamente mais rápidas, especialmente ao executar títulos DX12 exigentes em resoluções mais altas, onde o desempenho se torna mais vinculado à GPU

O consumo total de energia é maior no Phantom Canyon do que no Hades Canyon, o que significa que o aumento de desempenho não é gratuito. Entretanto, o aumento no consumo é muito menor do que o aumento percentual de desempenho para um desempenho maior de gen para gen por watt. Além disso, as temperaturas centrais e o ruído do ventilador permaneceriam relativamente consistentes entre os dois NUCs, apesar das grandes diferenças de desempenho. Os usuários estão obtendo mais desempenho sem que a máquina funcione mais alto ou mais quente.

O Kaby Lake-G foi divertido enquanto durou, mas o Phantom Canyon é a prova de que você não precisa de uma arquitetura exótica quando CPUs e GPUs "em estoque" podem realizar o mesmo e com melhor suporte de software.

Veja nossas revisões completas sobre o NUC8 Hades Canyon e NUC11 Phantom Canyon para saber mais sobre estes NUCs de jogos.

Intel NUC8 Hades Canyon Especificações principais	Especificações do núcleo do Intel NUC11 Phantom Canyon
8ª geração Intel Core i7-8809G CPU Kaby Lake-G 100 W TDP CPU e GPU combinados Discreta Radeon RX Vega M GH GPU 4 GB HBM2 VRAM 2018 lançamento	11ª geração CPU Intel Core i7-1165G7 Tiger Lake-U 28 W TDP CPU + 80 W a 90 W TGP GPU Discreto GeForce GPU móvel RTX 2060 6 GB GDDR6 VRAM 2021 lançamento

Intel NUC8 Hades Canyon Portos	Portos NUC11 Phantom Canyon Intel
2x mini-DisplayPort 1.3 2x 1 Gbps RJ-45 6x USB-A 3x USB-C (2x Thunderbolt 3) 2x HDMI 2.0a 1x Óptico 1x Áudio de 3.5 mm	1x mini-DisplayPort 1.4 1x 2.5 Gbps RJ-45 6x USB-A 2x USB-C (2x Thunderbolt 4) 1x HDMI 2.0b 1x Óptico 1x Áudio de 3.5 mm

Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK DIN A4 ❌

Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7; CPU Multi 64Bit: Ø914 (901.51-1011.79)

Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G; CPU Multi 64Bit: Ø857 (853.53-862.44)

Cinebench R20: CPU (Multi Core) | CPU (Single Core)
Cinebench R15: CPU Multi 64Bit | CPU Single 64Bit
Blender: v2.79 BMW27 CPU
7-Zip 18.03: 7z b 4 -mmt1 | 7z b 4
Geekbench 5.5: Single-Core | Multi-Core
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2: 4k Preset
LibreOffice : 20 Documents To PDF
R Benchmark 2.5: Overall mean

Cinebench R20 / CPU (Multi Core)
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G	2005 Points +21%
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7	1660 Points

Cinebench R20 / CPU (Single Core)
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7	583 Points
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G	404 Points -31%

Cinebench R15 / CPU Multi 64Bit
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7	1012 (901.51^min - 1011.79^max) Points
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G	864 Points -15%

Cinebench R15 / CPU Single 64Bit
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7	229 Points
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G	178 Points -22%

Blender / v2.79 BMW27 CPU
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7	543 Seconds *
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G	537 Seconds * +1%

7-Zip 18.03 / 7z b 4 -mmt1
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7	5260 MIPS
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G	4101 MIPS -22%

7-Zip 18.03 / 7z b 4
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7	24684 MIPS
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G	19347 MIPS -22%

Geekbench 5.5 / Single-Core
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7	1544 Points

Geekbench 5.5 / Multi-Core
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7	5209 Points

HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 / 4k Preset
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7	7.14 fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G	7.1 fps -1%

LibreOffice / 20 Documents To PDF
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7	48 s *

R Benchmark 2.5 / Overall mean
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7	0.561 sec *

* ... smaller is better

3DMark | 3DMark 11

3DMark
1920x1080 Fire Strike Graphics
Intel NUC11PHKi7C NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile, i7-1165G7	17077 Points
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH, i7-8809G	10248 Points -40%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (2286 - 6482, n=215)	4920 Points -71%
2560x1440 Time Spy Graphics
Intel NUC11PHKi7C NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile, i7-1165G7	6599 Points
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH, i7-8809G	2908 Points -56%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (707 - 1871, n=212)	1495 Points -77%
2560x1440 Time Spy Score
Intel NUC11PHKi7C NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile, i7-1165G7	6380 Points
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH, i7-8809G	3096 Points -51%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (789 - 2133, n=209)	1675 Points -74%
3840x2160 Fire Strike Ultra Graphics
Intel NUC11PHKi7C NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile, i7-1165G7	3959 Points
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH, i7-8809G	2247 Points -43%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (599 - 1458, n=89)	1130 Points -71%

3DMark 11
1280x720 Performance GPU
Intel NUC11PHKi7C NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile, i7-1165G7	23992 Points
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH, i7-8809G	14302 Points -40%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (2867 - 7676, n=202)	6353 Points -74%
1280x720 Performance Combined
Intel NUC11PHKi7C NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile, i7-1165G7	12149 Points
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH, i7-8809G	10391 Points -14%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (1926 - 7661, n=201)	5537 Points -54%

Final Fantasy XV Benchmark
1280x720 Lite Quality
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	130 fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	81.8 fps -37%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (14.9 - 56.5, n=183)	39.4 fps -70%
1920x1080 Standard Quality
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	89.2 fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	41.2 fps -54%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (10.5 - 31.2, n=179)	21.8 fps -76%
1920x1080 High Quality
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	67.5 fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	20.4 fps -70%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (8.15 - 27.8, n=172)	16.8 fps -75%

GTA V
1024x768 Lowest Settings possible
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	168 (5.58^min, 111^P1 - 300^max) fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	165 (1.676^min, 100^P1 - 336^max) fps -2%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (52 - 166.4, n=162)	98.5 fps -41%
1920x1080 Lowest Settings possible
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	165 (4.25^min, 111^P1 - 348^max) fps +6%
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	156 (4.99^min, 111^P1 - 301^max) fps
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (34.7 - 132.1, n=136)	73.8 fps -53%
1366x768 Normal/Off AF:4x
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	158 (4.71^min, 100^P1 - 289^max) fps 0%
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	158 (4.65^min, 90.9^P1 - 266^max) fps
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (24.1 - 149.3, n=165)	83.1 fps -47%
1920x1080 Normal/Off AF:4x
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	157 (3.27^min, 100^P1 - 316^max) fps +7%
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	147 (4.13^min, 90.9^P1 - 289^max) fps
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (20 - 119.3, n=137)	65.2 fps -56%
1920x1080 High/On (Advanced Graphics Off) AA:2xMSAA + FX AF:8x
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	119 (39.3^min, 76.9^P1 - 229^max) fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	81.2 (1.964^min, 62.5^P1 - 159^max) fps -32%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (9.39 - 51.6, n=157)	22.8 fps -81%
1920x1080 Highest Settings possible AA:4xMSAA + FX AF:16x
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	69.6 (19.2^min, 47.6^P1 - 121^max) fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	39.4 (1.843^min, 27^P1 - 125^max) fps -43%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (4.13 - 22.9, n=151)	9.48 fps -86%

Dota 2 Reborn
1280x720 min (0/3) fastest
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	139 (124.5^min) fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	127 (103.6^min) fps -9%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (36 - 148, n=215)	100.3 fps -28%
1366x768 med (1/3)
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	123 (107.7^min) fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	119 (95.8^min) fps -3%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (31.6 - 108.5, n=215)	75.7 fps -38%
1920x1080 high (2/3)
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	116 (100.9^min) fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	108 (87.1^min) fps -7%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (23.2 - 88.1, n=215)	54.2 fps -53%
1920x1080 ultra (3/3) best looking
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	112 (98.7^min) fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	94.6 (82.1^min) fps -16%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (20.6 - 78.5, n=215)	49.4 fps -56%

The Witcher 3
1024x768 Low Graphics & Postprocessing
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	220.7 (196^min - 232^max) fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	165.5 (148^min - 174^max) fps -25%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (28.9 - 117.2, n=186)	84 fps -62%
1366x768 Medium Graphics & Postprocessing
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	152.2 (142^min - 162^max) fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	105.1 (100^min - 110^max) fps -31%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (21.4 - 77.8, n=184)	53.6 fps -65%
1920x1080 High Graphics & Postprocessing (Nvidia HairWorks Off)
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	101.5 (96^min - 106^max) fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	59.7 (56^min - 64^max) fps -41%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (10.6 - 45.9, n=189)	28.7 fps -72%
1920x1080 Ultra Graphics & Postprocessing (HBAO+)
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	61.4 (59^min - 64^max) fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	34.3 (32^min - 37^max) fps -44%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (8.79 - 20.1, n=179)	14 fps -77%

X-Plane 11.11
1280x720 low (fps_test=1)
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	94.8 fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	61.8 fps -35%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (13.4 - 88.4, n=212)	41.5 fps -56%
1920x1080 med (fps_test=2)
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	81.3 fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	52.8 fps -35%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (11.6 - 69.5, n=213)	35.2 fps -57%
1920x1080 high (fps_test=3)
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	69.8 fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	45.5 fps -35%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (11.1 - 59.8, n=212)	31.6 fps -55%

Strange Brigade
1280x720 lowest AF:1
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	287 (77^min, 220^P1 - 480^max) fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	210 (146^min, 184^P1 - 270^max) fps -27%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (48.5 - 115.1, n=168)	84.8 fps -70%
1920x1080 medium AA:medium AF:4
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	148 (64.5^min, 124^P1 - 240^max) fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	85.3 (73.4^min, 74.4^P1 - 110^max) fps -42%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (18.2 - 51.4, n=166)	36.5 fps -75%
1920x1080 high AA:high AF:8
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	124 (75.3^min, 98^P1 - 191^max) fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	68 (51.7^min, 52.9^P1 - 92.9^max) fps -45%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (15.4 - 39.8, n=165)	29.3 fps -76%
1920x1080 ultra AA:ultra AF:16
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Core i7-1165G7, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile	109 (68.2^min, 83.9^P1 - 190^max) fps
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Core i7-8809G, AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH	56.6 (42.9^min, 44.5^P1 - 73.7^max) fps -48%
Average Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs (13.2 - 31.7, n=163)	23.7 fps -78%

Networking
iperf3 transmit AX12
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX201	1129 (1014^min - 1229^max) MBit/s
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265	376 MBit/s -67%
iperf3 receive AX12
Intel NUC11PHKi7C Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX201	870 (452^min - 924^max) MBit/s
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265	591 MBit/s -32%

SD Card Reader
average JPG Copy Test (av. of 3 runs)
Intel NUC11PHKi7C (Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC 64 GB UHS-II)	173.9 MB/s
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK (Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC 64 GB UHS-II)	81 MB/s -53%
maximum AS SSD Seq Read Test (1GB)
Intel NUC11PHKi7C (Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC 64 GB UHS-II)	201.4 MB/s
Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK (Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC 64 GB UHS-II)	88.3 MB/s -56%

	Intel NUC11PHKi7C GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile, i7-1165G7, Samsung SSD 980 Pro 500GB MZ-V8P500BW	Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK Vega M GH, i7-8809G, Intel Optane 120 GB SSDPEK1W120GA
Noise		-10%
off / environment *	24.5	28.7 -17%
Idle Minimum *	25.3	29 -15%
Idle Average *	25.3	29 -15%
Idle Maximum *	25.3	29 -15%
Load Average *	36.4	36 1%
Witcher 3 ultra *	39.7	42 -6%
Load Maximum *	47.9	49.4 -3%

* ... smaller is better

	Intel NUC11PHKi7C i7-1165G7, GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile, Samsung SSD 980 Pro 500GB MZ-V8P500BW, , x,	Intel Hades Canyon NUC8i7HVK i7-8809G, Vega M GH, Intel Optane 120 GB SSDPEK1W120GA, , x,
Power Consumption		-40%
Idle Minimum *	5.8	15.5 -167%
Idle Average *	5.9	16.2 -175%
Idle Maximum *	20.7	16.5 20%
Load Average *	130.8	83.4 36%
Witcher 3 ultra *	154.4	121.7 21%
Load Maximum *	225.2	173.5 23%